Ewan Delanoy on Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:28:38 +0100


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Field inclusion problem


Hello all,

  I would like to have the PARI-GP expertsâs advice about the feasibility of the following computation.
I have two polynomials A and B, given below, with A of degree 9 and B of degree 72. I know that if b is a root of B, then Q(b) is the decomposition field of A, so that there are three polynomials A_1,A_2,A_3 in b, each of degree at most 72,  such that A factorizes as (X-A1(b))(X-A2(b))(X-A3(b)).
The goal is to compute exactly the (ugly & complicated) coefficients of A1,A2,A3. I have tried to compute the roots of A and B to a large precision, then use lindep. Unfortunately, even when I set \p to 1000, I still get false coefficients.
Would that be considered a reasonable computation in PARi-GP ? Perhaps there are other methods than using lindep ?
Note that the B polynomial is quite complicated, Iâd be quite happy to replace it with a simpler polynomial that still corresponds to the decomposition field of A.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Ewan


polynomial_called_a=64*a^9 + 192*a^7 + 240*a^6 + 36*a^5 + 552*a^4 - 847*a^3 - 540*a^2 + 273*a + 143

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